FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: I think that's where Lamarck's ideas can be woven in and make some sense. Thyroid hormones then get into the brain and they turn on certain neural chemical signals. I think the Swedish data are really, really strong, and very reliable. ROBERT: It's a little odd, actually. But, this hour were gonna fight this sort of sad sack feeling of inevitability and impotence. If you start smoking when you're 10, 11 something like that, you end up having children with more problems. Radiolab: From Tree to Shining Tree LISTEN Three guests: Suzanne Simard, a professor of forest ecology and teacher at the University of British Columbia, Jennifer Frazer, a science writer that has a blog called The Artful Amoeba, and Roy Halling, a mycologist. Because theyre reaching for the tops of trees. Nobody's arguing that women should do drugs when they're pregnant. As a parent, you are a tiny blip in a very, very, long story. Completely answer all questions in Section I AND Section IV. I don't think that puts me in the same category as Hitler. And she's a complete nut. She and I snuck away from the children into her office. Radiolab is an outstanding radio show broadcast out of New York City on WNYC. They decided to explore this question. What do I know? Move on to the next cage yes, no? They lived longer lives, something like 30 years on average. My name is Veronica Zimmer. You know, you've got all these chemicals around. JAD: Michael and Frances looked inside the brains of these rats and what they saw was that the rats who had been licked a lot as babies, they had more stuff in their head. This is spooky because it's like JAD: It means what if grandpa has a bad day? But I'm going to give them a basin of water. That's the stuff that makes you you. Okay, well of them, don't really know what happened to her. LYNN PALTROW: I'm Executive Director and Founder of National Advocates for Pregnant Women. [laughs] "This may hurt you my son, but I'm doing it for my grandchildren.". JAD: You know, inside these cells, in the center, coiled up in little spools, is the DNA. That was amazing. And at first, it didn't go so well because, you know, if you're a land toad and you're trying to have sex in the water, it's kind of hard. And when methyl groups stick to that part of the DNA, the maternal instinct is effectively turned off. They have found very similar effects for smoking, for instance. The bit of DNA that will give this baby when it grows up the instincts to be nice to its baby, and lick that baby. So thats the reason, of course, that we work with rats because we can get inside the brain. But with the midwife toad, the female Lays her eggs on land and then the male midwife toad comes along And actually kind of sticks them to his back legs, like a bunch of whitish grapes, and then hops around with them basically until they hatch. And Barbara and Destiny walked me out to my car. JAD: I find myself thinking like, Okay, I know these kids have their genes half from me, half from my wife. Thats like, I mean, that seems like a thing that would be frightening. And were trying to think about how do we keep it the same in a lot of ways, but also how do we let it grow into something beyond what it was originally built to be. Listen Jan 27, 2023 Birthstory A sperm, an egg, two wombs, four countries, and money. A given episode might whirl you through science, legal history, and into the home of someone halfway across the world. And he would basically turn the heat way, way up in these aquariums until they had to go underwater. Thyroid hormones then get into the brain and they turn on certain neural chemical signals. SAM KEAN: And, you know, there was kind of antisemitism growing at this time, so he thought that someone had framed him, and six weeks after Nobel published his results in Nature, Kammerer sent a letter to Moscow. CARL ZIMMER: He's 22, 23, and he already had this reputation for being amazing at keeping animals alive, that otherwise would just die. ROBERT: Interestingly, the church has also kept track of the farmers' SAM KEAN: How much they were growing each year. JAD: In those books you can read everything about the citizens of verkalix, going back hundreds of years. So that's fun. There were four girls and Barbara and Destiny told me that a few years ago they found three of them and they all either were in college or had finished college. They decided to explore this question, They thought, "Let's just see if we can figure out how it is the rat mothers pass down their parenting skills?". She got one. And you have to bear in mind that at this point, it only had one hand left. I wouldn't want to put it up to chance, because what kind of life is that? How was this woman allowed", BARBARA HARRIS: "To walk into the hospital and drop off a damaged baby and just walk away with no consequences?". That's what good rat mothers do, they lick their babies a lot. So he actually went to Vienna. MICHAEL MEANEY: Yeah, you can't touch that. PAT: I asked Barbara about some of the things that she'd said because, to be totally honest, they kind of turn my stomach. Well, he thought it might have been an assistant trying to frame him because he was Jewish. ROBERT: And there were from the beginning. His reputation was that he could get inside the mind of, say, a salamander and know just what it wanted to eat. I wonder how much you believe in it. Nice, cool water. BARBARA HARRIS: I already knew that if I ever got a little girl, I was going to name her Destiny. The critical part of this Is that all these changes wake up this little gang of proteins. More brain cells? PAT: Like shed give the women a choice. JAD: We all know this, that there are cycles of abuse or whatever. Sincerely, Jennifer.". You have to do that for five hours a day for six consecutive days. PAT: I like you, I get the sense that there's a lot of warmth in you. FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: He had no idea about DNA. PAT: Because she says as soon as she saw Destiny BARBARA HARRIS: Sat her on my lap, with her little dress on and her little curly hair. ROBERT: You wonder, where did that come from? I like you, I get the sense that there's a lot of warmth in you. It might be a mixture. When Kammerer published his results initially, a bunch of scientists immediately began to say "Wait a minute, hold on here, it would be nice if life was like that but life isn't like that. You can imagine these toads are like, "Dammit, fine. He stuffed himself silly; 9, 10, 11 years old, so he's a happy grandpa, you the grandson, you then would have. She was totally an oops kid. And when he examined it, he noticed that there was a syringe hole there. ROBERT: A few years later, there'd be a harsh winter. Famine again, and these changes would just bounce back and forth. Were there any consequences? JAD: It's writer, Sam Kean again, and here's, he says, what you need to know about the midwife toad. And I think that no, I didn't plan on it but I wouldn't take her back for anything because she made me better. And you have to bear in mind that at this point, it only had one hand left. More what kind of stuff? A given episode might whirl you through science, legal history, and into the home of. I mean, the idea that they could be constrained by their DNA, that maybe one of us gave them a bit of DNA thats gonna hold them back? If . CARL ZIMMER: More information about Sloan at JAD: Yeah, we're exploring questions of lwhat can you pass down to your kids and their kids? ROBERT: But luckily for the Vivarium and for our story, they had a guy. She said, "Well, she's just beautiful and she has lips like a baby doll." PAT: Have you ever had someone call or write you and say that they regret their decision? His example with humans was a blacksmith. ROBERT: But then, a few years would pass, crops would bounce back. I don't have the biggest boobies in the world. Is that too old?" JAD: Wait, when you say they can choose to be sterilized, you mean permanent? It says, "Race of Supermen." Kick off certain hormonal systems. ], You get them $200 each, which they can spend on crack. He actually named his daughter Lacerta, which is a genus of lizard. My mom needed a girl and, boop! He was just You know, most babies are kinda peaceful, he was never really peaceful. Jean Baptiste Lamarck was a pioneer in the . You know, inside these cells, in the center, coiled up in little spools, is the DNA. But in the middle of a conversation about how to fight the virus, we find a place impervious to the stalled plans and frenetic demands of the outside world. The reason they're more aroused is that the mom's licking activates the release of adrenaline and noradrenaline in the pup. Once their born, their genes are fixed and change does not happen in a generation or two. Because we had already had to upgrade from a car to a van, from a condo to a home. Kinda makes me claustrophobic. It says, "Race of Supermen." On the one hand, she says, immediately, cheques started arriving. I got to say this is spooky. Because it would reflect badly on the Soviet state. He was born in 1880 in Vienna, Jewish family. Like shed give the women a choice. I just didn't think. CARL ZIMMER: So they can grab onto the female and hold tight while they're mating. Mamaw was the one I'd come to see. Sincerely, Jennifer.". [ARCHIVAL CLIP, Jad Abumrad: Well lets lets read the book first. ROBERT: They could eat twice, three times as much. All right, I'll get in the water." JAD: Yes. When I started spending some time with Destiny, Barbara's 22-year-old daughter. SAM KEAN: And when he examined it, he noticed that there was a syringe hole there. It would be wrong to think that they represent all women who use drugs while they're pregnant. MICHAEL MEANEY: Kick off certain hormonal systems. You know? She'll be two in January. PAT: Because when a woman uses heroin while she's pregnant, the fetus gets hooked on it too. SAM KEAN: I should add too. PAT: I ended up finding myself really conflicted about it. Then choose either Section II OR Section III and answer all questions in that . SAM KEAN: Yeah, it was a very attractive theory to them in Moscow. There was a newspaper called The Daily Express and they have these headlines that come out. SAM KEAN: This is what's called the slow growth period. Thanks to Frances Champagne and Michael Meany and Sam Kean, who writes about Paul Kammerer in his book, . We need to oblige the constraints of WNYC copyright arrangements and apologise for any inconveniences caused. JAD: And I know I cant change those genes. The sperm carries these marks to the next generation. You're eight, sorry. Move on to the next cage, yes, no? PAT: But a year later, the social worker called again. It means what if grandpa has a bad day? SAM KEAN: No, they did not have them on land. SAM KEAN: He extended this idea to people. We'll just get one more.". PAT: And according to Barbara, the majority of the women she pays are white. But this stuff you're telling me about Sweden feels very grim in a certain way. And she told Barbara, "There's something you need to know about this baby.". He thought that you could kind of engineer societies by changing the environment. Are you nine? JAD: See, this is the story of science that doesn't get told. Yeah, the social worker called and told me the mother had given birth. Baby, be careful. JAD: How do these simple little traits get passed forward? JAD: So we're going to leave you with a story from our producer, Pat Walters, about one woman's radical JAD: A few months ago, Pat made his way down in North Carolina, to a small suburb outside of Charlotte to visit this family. Higher frequencies of heart attacks. CARL ZIMMER: Around 1908, he started publishing all of these results. [laughs]. KARIN BORGKVIST LJUNG: Cancer. ], What's the worst thing you have been called by one of your critics?]. Nobody has a right to do that to a baby. And then that baby would stretch and stretch, and it would give a little more stretching to its baby. I know! PAT: For me, this whole story really shifted PAT: When I started spending some time with Destiny, Barbara's 22-year-old daughter. BARBARA HARRIS: It was just no baby should have to come into the world like that. You know, like if you're abused as a kid, you were more likely to abuse your kid, but still, you got to wonder. Even though Destiny's mom was doing all sorts of drugs during her pregnancy and the doctors told Barbara that Destiny was going to be mentally and physically delayed Not feeling the way I'm supposed to feel. JAD: Its an idea thats been kicking around for me since my kids were born. Tell me what your image of a drug-using pregnant woman is. They willed the neck to get longer, the muscles to get bigger. That's the headline for his talk, and then CARL ZIMMER: Right below the headlines says, "Scientist's great discovery which may change us all.". That kind of 30 years? VERONICA ZIMMER: My name is Veronica Zimmer. That's 9, 10, 11. I know I've been joking a lot in this interview, but I mean it with all that I am. SAM KEAN: Because theyre reaching for the tops of trees. LYNN PALTROW: I think I was really horrified and terrified. ROBERT: If your grandpa didn't starve, instead he lived through great times. I didn't see them as people. Apparently, those grandkids SAM KEAN: Were less prone to diabetes. That is a bad way to start a kid's life but that's just the beginning of the kid's life. OLOV BYGREN: They didn't have grains. Barbara started finding herself on panels with women who'd use drugs during their pregnancies. Yeah. JAD: So now, the genes can make the proteins that make the rats a good mom? CARL ZIMMER: To build these terrariums and aquariums and stock them with animals. CARL ZIMMER: Lamarckism pretty much died there. JAD: Is that a genetic hatred of whistling that I just had? [ARCHIVAL Clip, Daytime Talkshow: You know what they're going to go do with that money. ROBERT: You mean, if you had a starving grandfather, you would be a healthier boy for the because you had a starving grandfather? PAT: Could you just tell us what you are doing now? BARBARA HARRIS: Sounds bizarre, but it's a solution. What they decided to do first was to try to figure out which rat was which, which meant, interestingly, counting all the legs. [laughs] Can you say, "Never, ever?" OLOV BYGREN: So they didn't starve to death. Radiolab is supported in part by the National Science Foundation and by the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation, enhancing public understanding of science and technology in the modern world. FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: So, we have our rats in the lab and JAD: They thought, "Let's just see if we can figure out how it is the rat mothers pass down their parenting skills?". Yes. JAD: Now, according to Carl, your genes are still fixed. PAT: Barbara says they've reached out to her many times but they never heard back. It's against the rules. The results are obvious to you. JAD: These are four kids from the same birth mother? DESTINY HARRIS: And that could have very easily have been one of us. She got one. Radiolab - Transcripts Subscribe 187 episodes Radiolab is on a curiosity bender. ROBERT: So, of course the folks at the Vivarium asked him. SAM KEAN: Except he had one. JAD: Even if it helps, it's horrifying. ROBERT: Well, so here's the thing. Kalia came too. Plus, you know, Lamarck didn't get all the biological details right. DESTINY HARRIS: Yes. You know? MICHAEL MEANEY: Mom's licking activates serotonin. So Barbara and her son got in the car and drove across town to the foster home where Destiny had been living for the past eight months. So FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: So we start looking at maternal care. To fellow named Jean-Baptiste Pierre Antoine de Monet, chevalier de Lamarck. I do mean that. We neuter them.". It all came down to this jar with his toad in it. PAT: So Barbara and her son got in the car and drove across town to the foster home where Destiny had been living for the past eight months. The results are obvious to you. Including a particular amphibian that plays a very big part in this story. If your grandpa didn't starve, instead he lived through great times. PAT: Just a little. It is hosted by Lulu Miller and Latif Nasser. He stuffed himself silly; 9, 10, 11 years old, so he's a happy grandpa, you the grandson, you then would have. So for Isaiah, being born was like just being cut off. PAT: As Barbara made the rounds on the daytime talk shows, the reaction was split right down the middle. You know, just take a little peek for themselves, and every time SAM KEAN: Kammerer said no, they were his specimens. Meaning that they had less incidence of heart disease? Let me say this again. It was this struggle for a few years. Yeah, it drifts into something like a shopping channel. Just sing. PAT: She just knew, "This is my daughter.". I'm Sam Kean's dad. Could you just tell us what you are doing now? Here, Kammerer's was saying, "You can do this even on a physical level.". CARL ZIMMER: Well, it was a zoo where there was all sorts of experiments going on. And the incredible thing is, those marks stick around. CARL ZIMMER: Kammerer puts on a suit and he walks off into the mountains SAM KEAN: Outside Vienna on a Rocky mountain trail. What they decided to do first was to try to figure out which rat was which, which meant, interestingly, counting all the legs. But she says she doesn't feel that way anymore. PAT'S DAD: Calling in to help read the credits. And that number, by the way, has grown a lot. I got these genes from somewhere, but I kind of feel like she was a surrogate, like she carried me for my real mom. We'll just be honest. Or is it? I guess the way I would look at it is that you can change your environment a lot more easily than you can change your genes. I decided to have a press conference in my front yard to announce what I was doing. You're not leaving this hospital unless you have long-term birth control.". I mean, for one thing, Barbara's white and Destiny's black. JAD: They all go down to the DNA, surround that methyl and just, pow! How do these simple little traits get passed forward? Thats like, I mean, that seems like a thing that would be frightening. You got your good parents and your bad parents. And Barbara is not offering that. Destiny has, what, three brothers and sisters that also were raised with her? All these chemicals racing by crashing into it, sticking, and one of the bits that gets covered up is that little bit that makes the proteins that create a maternal instinct. She'll be two in January. ], [ARCHIVAL CLIP, Jad Abumrad: How bout this one?]. OLOV BYGREN: Yes, we are really data-rich. BARBARA HARRIS: Saying the mother had given birth to a baby girl, did we want her? And um PAT: Doctors would later explain to Barbara that Destiny's mom had been addicted to drugs while she was pregnant. You got to help boost if you had a starving grandfather. They've seen it and they've repeated the experience. Just don't have any more children because, at that point, I didn't really know any of them. SAM KEAN: He was really one of the first grand theorists in biology. That was nice. I'm not saying that these women are dogs but they're not acting any more responsible than a dog in heat. Where sound illuminates ideas, and the boundaries blur between science, philosophy, and human experience. And I knew that the only way I was going to get a daughter was if I went and became a foster parent and asked for one. Test the outer edges of what you think you know. ROBERT: That's Sam Kean again. And when methyl groups stick to that part of the DNA, the maternal instinct is effectively turned off. Welcome to the Grammys of government-funded research. And if you were eating a whole lot between 9 and 12, one-quarter. FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: Not usually because it upsets people and I'm Canadian. So some scientists began to ask Kammerer if they could look at his toads. Radiolab is supported in part by the National Science Foundation and by the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation, enhancing public understanding of science and technology in the modern world. He's the guy who told us about Olov's work. That's how I've always looked at it. CARL ZIMMER: And he makes a very careful study of this hand. There's going to be this massacre of toads and only a few lucky ones are going to survive. SAM KEAN: And so, they just had to hold on for the entire winter. To build these terrariums and aquariums and stock them with animals. I'm graduating in December. ROBERT: Do you know anything about the other four? RADIOLAB Podcast "Inheritance" Homework Assignment Name: Rohan Desai PSUID: 9 6241 8529 Listen to the first three stories of the "Inheritance" Radiolab Podcast (Control + click on link to access podcast. You're obviously a great mom, but that feels cold to me. These are four kids from the same birth mother? JAD: Michael was in school and he got interested in a very, very basic question about how things get passed down? Riksarkivet. In this magazine article, Barbara even said, quote, "We don't allow dogs to breed. The lady knew why we were there. Hosted by Lulu Miller and Latif Nasser, Radiolab is a podcast known for using innovative sound design to ask deep questions and investigative journalism to get the answers. Radiolab is on YouTube! If you were a boy in verkalix between the ages of 9 and 12 years old, that's the window, 9 to 12, you're a boy, and then we have one of those terribly rough winters, and you're eating much less than normal. All these women who have so many babies and never try to seek drug treatment. ROBERT: Okay. Then 275 words will cost you $ 10, while 3 hours will cost you $ 50. Radiolab is a radio program produced by WNYC, a public radio station in New York City, and broadcast on public radio stations in the United States. What a name, you've got to like this guy. ROBERT: So, somehow, by some chemical mechanism, starving grandpa, back when he was about 9 to 12 years old, turned out to be a good thing. He was miserable to look at. I'm graduating in December. Thank you so much for your interest in Radiolab. But according to Kammerer, here's what happened when he heated up the toads little cage. You know? In this episode, originally aired in 2012,we put nature and nurture on a collision course and discover how outside forces can find a way inside us, and change not just our hearts and minds, but the basic biological blueprint that we pass on to future generations.Support Radiolab by becoming a member ofThe Labtoday. That was it. But, I said this to Lynn, "Despite all the things that trouble me about Barbara's program, I feel like what she's trying to do is to stop a kid from getting born into a childhood that's going to suck.". MICHAEL MEANEY: Yes. JAD: So he's got to live his life as a toad with all this baggage on him? At once and we're watching 40 litters at a time. SAM KEAN: That was the implication, except Kammerer tried to defend himself by saying CARL ZIMMER: "Do you think I'm a Dummkopf, or an idiot, because that's what I would have to be if I left a forgery with ink standing around openly in the laboratory where so many of my enemies would have entry?". Females seem to hate laying eggs in the water, but is that the end of the story? So much can happen after that. The right hand had been cut off for microscopic slides. Wow. Even if it helps, it's horrifying. ROBERT: So what is the licking doing then? And, I mean, I have straight A's and I'm making it work. Kammerer thought, "Wow. So moms licking activates serotonin, and it's released onto brain cells in the hippocampus. ROBERT: Rewrite their their blueprint? And if you were eating a whole lot between 9 and 12, one-quarter. Copyright arrangements and apologise for any inconveniences caused and stretch, and into home... 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